tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729080532188674868.post5651489829394111688..comments2024-03-23T19:56:39.134-06:00Comments on Dear Bro Jo . . . : Can We Receive Promptings that Contradict the Gospel?Bro Johttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04525964417706399553noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729080532188674868.post-5678319346318227612016-10-12T15:00:53.280-06:002016-10-12T15:00:53.280-06:00There's doctrine, there's standards, and t...There's doctrine, there's standards, and there's counsel. Doctrine is only found in the standard works, or in unanimous statements from the apostles. Doctrine seldom, if ever, changes. Standards are published rules that are based on doctrines. Counsel is generally inspired advice. Can a person receive revelation that contradicts doctrine or standards? No. But can a person receive revelation that contradicts counsel? Certainly, but there's a high unlikelihood. For example, one of my chemistry professors here at BYU-I received revelation (She and her husband) that she should continue working (Teaching at the university) while her husband stayed home with their special-needs child. It worked out very well for them. But there is a big red flag in the case presented by this post: They're claiming they've received revelation based on the idea that they're special and superior. There is no end-game for this that wouldn't be achieved though them just staying friends. T=I have no doubt that they think they received revelation. The source, though, is questionable. J-Dawg Fluffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04374286597676647157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729080532188674868.post-33054981685186184422016-10-11T08:47:25.905-06:002016-10-11T08:47:25.905-06:00Dear Anon,
The WHOLE TALK has relevance to what w...Dear Anon,<br /><br />The WHOLE TALK has relevance to what we discuss here at Dear Bro Jo!<br /><br />My hope is that you're focusing more on the "stop making excuses" points in what Elder Oaks said than the "don't write to me asking me to approve of your exception to the rule" points.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />- Bro Jo<br /><br />Bro Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525964417706399553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729080532188674868.post-11093565730930307992016-10-11T04:54:25.783-06:002016-10-11T04:54:25.783-06:00Does this quote by Dallin H. Oaks has any relevanc...Does this quote by Dallin H. Oaks has any relevance to this circumstance?<br /><br />"If you feel you are a special case, so that the strong counsel I have given doesn’t apply to you, please don’t write me a letter. Why would I make this request? I have learned that the kind of direct counsel I have given results in a large number of letters from members who feel they are an exception, and they want me to confirm that the things I have said just don’t apply to them in their special circumstance.<br /><br />I will explain why I can’t offer much comfort in response to that kind of letter by telling you an experience I had with another person who was troubled by a general rule. I gave a talk in which I mentioned the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. 20:13). Afterward a man came up to me in tears saying that what I had said showed there was no hope for him. “What do you mean?” I asked him.<br /><br />He explained that he had been a machine gunner during the Korean War. During a frontal assault, his machine gun mowed down scores of enemy infantry. Their bodies were piled so high in front of his gun that he and his men had to push them away in order to maintain their field of fire. He had killed a hundred, he said, and now he must be going to hell because I had spoken of the Lord’s commandment “Thou shalt not kill.”<br /><br />The explanation I gave that man is the same explanation I give to you if you feel you are an exception to what I have said. As a General Authority, I have the responsibility to preach general principles. When I do, I don’t try to define all the exceptions. There are exceptions to some rules. For example, we believe the commandment is not violated by killing pursuant to a lawful order in an armed conflict. But don’t ask me to give an opinion on your exception. I only teach the general rules. Whether an exception applies to you is your responsibility. You must work that out individually between you and the Lord."<br /><br />https://www.lds.org/ensign/2006/06/dating-versus-hanging-out?lang=eng<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com